Well, it is true that you learn something new every day. I did not know about presets. My comment above was really a design time thing to avoid the situation where opening a form that has recursive references causes VS to crash or other bad things to happen. Sounds like the presets would do exactly that.

Thanks

Neil

It would be nice if this was a configuration option. Something that I could set as a global default and something that I could set at a project level.